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wdm1219inpenna

Posted:
5/31/2020 4:45:49 PM

Least Favorite Episodes

Dreams, Hawkeye, Edwina, Guerilla My Dreams all spring readily to mind.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
6/4/2020 10:51:31 AM

A few of mine

Goodbye, Farewell and Amen
Comrades in Arms
Edwina
The two-part one in which Klinger is charged with stealing the camera (Peace of Mind, maybe??)
Hawkeye

phantomeagle

Posted:
6/5/2020 2:14:13 PM

Wow
FinestKindinTN wrote:
Goodbye, Farewell and Amen
Comrades in Arms
Edwina
The two-part one in which Klinger is charged with stealing the camera (Peace of Mind, maybe??)
Hawkeye

I can see Edwinda, and Hawkeye, and even the Camera episodes, but G.F.A? I love that episode.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
6/6/2020 12:13:29 PM

Sorry
phantomeagle wrote:
I can see Edwinda, and Hawkeye, and even the Camera episodes, but G.F.A? I love that episode.

Just not a fan of that episode. I do like the scene in the mess tent where everyone tells their post-war plans. Some were hopeful, some were funny, and some were sad.

I know they wanted to wrap everyone's stories up, but I thought they tried to cram too much stuff into one episode.

Upon further reflection, though, maybe the chaos of the episode mirrors the chaos that would come at the end of the conflict.

But I still do not want to watch this episode...

wdm1219inpenna

Posted:
6/7/2020 9:27:32 PM

Snap Judgment, Snappier Judgment is the two part camera episode. That is one I could take or leave too.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
6/10/2020 10:41:18 AM

Yes that's the name!
wdm1219inpenna wrote:
Snap Judgment, Snappier Judgment is the two part camera episode. That is one I could take or leave too.

I couldn't figure out if military justice is so much different than civilian justice or if the writers couldn't come up with a better premise of Klinger's "guilt." The evidence showing guilt looked really weak, in my opinion, and certainly was not "beyond a reasonable doubt." And it certainly did not need to be a 2-part episode; it just stretched the torture out longer.

Ruptured Brook

Posted:
6/10/2020 11:26:01 AM

Major Fred C. Dobbs
Iron Guts Kelly
There is Nothing Like a Nurse
The Nurses
Exorcism
Captains Outrageous
April Fools
Oh, How We Danced
Follies of the Living - Concerns of the Dead
Trick or Treatment
Give and Take

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
6/11/2020 10:13:23 AM

Love the opinions
Ruptured Brook wrote:
Major Fred C. Dobbs
Iron Guts Kelly
There is Nothing Like a Nurse
The Nurses
Exorcism
Captains Outrageous
April Fools
Oh, How We Danced
Follies of the Living - Concerns of the Dead
Trick or Treatment
Give and Take

I really like The Nurses (we find that Margaret has a heart), Exorcism (Mulcahy's statement about the wonders of how God can reveal Himself), and April Fools (the reveal of the joke).
It's fun to see what folks dislike episode-wise.

Beth

Posted:
6/12/2020 5:42:29 AM

Lend a Hand (horribly written)
Communication Breakdown (Charles's half)
Picture This (uncomfortable)
Edwina (ugh)
the bowling section of Sons and Bowlers (but Charles and Hawkeye's section is among the BEST)

I'm sure there's more, but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'm not a fan of season one at all apart from a few episodes, but only Edwina is really bad.

Captain Tuttle

Posted:
6/15/2020 6:39:11 PM

"Hawkeye" was the absolute worst episode. Totally self-absorbed monologue of boredom. Second was "Mr. and Mrs. Who?" I wasn't buying into that episode of Winchester being involved with a woman. "Comrades in Arms" was next. It was another Alan Alda's self-serving show of directing himself to have an affair with a co-star. "Picture This" is next. I got tired of the first 10 minutes of it, but they made a part 2 of it. "Bless You Hawkeye" is next with that cringe-worthy performance at the end with him crying and screaming. Way too much overacting. "Henry in Love" was terribly creepy to watch. And last, but not least is "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen." WAAAAAYYYY TOOO LOOONG and boring. They should've ended everything with "As Time Goes By."

Ruptured Brook

Posted:
6/17/2020 2:04:50 AM

FinestKindinTN wrote:
I really like The Nurses (we find that Margaret has a heart), Exorcism (Mulcahy's statement about the wonders of how God can reveal Himself), and April Fools (the reveal of the joke).
It's fun to see what folks dislike episode-wise.

I admit I used to agree with your comment about The Nurses, Finest--it is very poignant to see her opening up and then nice to see her offer an olive branch by not reporting the issue to Potter. I also enjoy the bits with the husband and wife, Hawk/BJ/Radar in that episode.

But more recently it dawned on me that we hadn't yet seen Margaret offering anyone else a cup of coffee up to that point. We see her have a conversation with some other nurses about Penobscot when she first gets engaged (no idea who sat down with who), and then the nurses throw her a party the day before her wedding. Even during A Night at Rosie's she asks why she wasn't invited and then tells her nurses (jokingly, I hope) that it's going to cost them a drink :/

The only other time I can recall her offering some friendship to a nurse was giving one of them the night off during Bucholz's inspection. Her kindness is almost always shown towards a non-nurse. Part of me thinks I MUST be forgetting other instances but I can't think of them. What am I missing?

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
6/17/2020 11:35:17 PM

Guess you're not an Alan Alda fan
Captain Tuttle wrote:
"Hawkeye" was the absolute worst episode. Totally self-absorbed monologue of boredom. Second was "Mr. and Mrs. Who?" I wasn't buying into that episode of Winchester being involved with a woman. "Comrades in Arms" was next. It was another Alan Alda's self-serving show of directing himself to have an affair with a co-star. "Picture This" is next. I got tired of the first 10 minutes of it, but they made a part 2 of it. "Bless You Hawkeye" is next with that cringe-worthy performance at the end with him crying and screaming. Way too much overacting. "Henry in Love" was terribly creepy to watch. And last, but not least is "Goodbye, Farewell and Amen." WAAAAAYYYY TOOO LOOONG and boring. They should've ended everything with "As Time Goes By."

I've not read any MASH-related books or books by any of the actors or others involved. But the last year or two, I've hit YouTube pretty hard and have found a number of interviews and documentaries. I do not recall any comments about him being self-absorbed or difficult; in fact, quite the opposite.
That being said, I do not know how so many episodes were soooo Hawkeye-centric. "Hawkeye" is the perfect example. "Bless You Hawkeye" is another; this story could have been given to any of the other characters.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
6/17/2020 11:52:45 PM

A recurring nurse character would've helped
Ruptured Brook wrote:
I admit I used to agree with your comment about The Nurses, Finest--it is very poignant to see her opening up and then nice to see her offer an olive branch by not reporting the issue to Potter. I also enjoy the bits with the husband and wife, Hawk/BJ/Radar in that episode.

But more recently it dawned on me that we hadn't yet seen Margaret offering anyone else a cup of coffee up to that point. We see her have a conversation with some other nurses about Penobscot when she first gets engaged (no idea who sat down with who), and then the nurses throw her a party the day before her wedding. Even during A Night at Rosie's she asks why she wasn't invited and then tells her nurses (jokingly, I hope) that it's going to cost them a drink :/

The only other time I can recall her offering some friendship to a nurse was giving one of them the night off during Bucholz's inspection. Her kindness is almost always shown towards a non-nurse. Part of me thinks I MUST be forgetting other instances but I can't think of them. What am I missing?

Margaret was very standoffish, perhaps reinforced by her army brat upbringing, and focused more on her work than those around her. And she was in charge which places another barrier between her and those who report to her. Even in the later seasons, the hard-ass disciplinarian shows up occasionally.
Perhaps a recurring more significant nurse character could have brought more of the friend part of Margaret out, a Spock to her Kirk, so to speak. For some reason, no significant nurse character was developed. And I'm sorry, but I don't think Kellye would've worked in that role. Not sure that Bigelow would have either. Not sure if they felt there just wasn't room or why they didn't.

Big Daddy O'Reilly

Posted:
7/1/2020 9:34:02 PM

"Edwina"
"For the Good of the Outfit"
"A Full Rich Day"
"Love and Marriage"
"Of Moose and Men"
"Hawkeye"
"The Nurses"
"Post-Op"
"In Love and War"
"Comrades in Arms, Part 1"
"Comrades in Arms, Part 2"
"Tea and Empathy"
"B.J. Papa San"

And everything after "Too Many Cooks" sans "No Sweat," "The Day After Christmas," and "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen."

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