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BeccaLeo1972

Posted:
1/30/2018 6:33:23 PM

Out of Place

Any Mash episodes that you thought were out of place for the tone of that season or overall for the series?

Big Daddy O'Reilly

Posted:
1/30/2018 7:56:19 PM

"Edwina" and "The Nurses." Neither are really very M*A*S*H in flavor, and feel more like stand-alone episodes from an anthology series or something the way they focus on minor characters that are never seen before or again; "The Nurses" moreso since a majority of the major characters (save for Margaret) are treated as supporting characters, whereas "Edwina" at least throws Hawkeye into the mix by forcing him to date Eddie.

AB

Posted:
1/31/2018 9:25:26 AM

For me, it would be "The Korean Surgeon". Margaret and Frank teaming up and threatening to go over the CO's head was something more in line with the first few seasons, and worked when Blake was in charge. It's always felt like them doing a bit of a throwback episode in the midst of Season 5, and strikes me as awkward because Margaret is established as having a lot more respect for Potter than Blake.

BeccaLeo1972

Posted:
1/31/2018 9:06:36 PM

"The Exorcism", "The Bus" and for a different reason "Change Day". "Change Day" felt like it was originally written for Frank and the writers gave it to Charles because they needed a filler episode. The other two are just strange little episodes that really don't have much to do with anything the 4077th is normally involved in day to day.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
2/3/2018 1:51:16 PM

A war for all seasons

At least I think that's the name. Col Potter and BJ and Charles are there two years before they arrived so that we could see an episode about Bobby Thompson's home run that allowed the Giants to win the pennant. Really confusing. It was interesting at least to see Charles and Klinger working together. And Mulcahy saying, "Kill the ump!....God rest his soul," and laying a big ole kiss on Margaret that Hawkeye would have been proud of.

phantomeagle

Posted:
2/3/2018 3:45:51 PM

A War for all Seasons

It's never bothered me that they changed Potter's arrival date. He had originally arrived in Sept. of 1952. That's under a year before the end of the war in July of 1953.

They never dreamed that the show would be as successful, or run as long as it did. To have Potter there for far longer than Henry but have that happen in less half the time that Henry was there was unrealistic.

Potter was there for nearly 8 seasons, and Henry for only 3.

To cram, what turned out to be 8 seasons, into 10 months just got more and more unrealistic, and less and less believable.

Potter was in his 6th season, at the time of this episode. He was already there twice as long as Henry, so it was decided to change his arrival date to make it more believable.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
2/3/2018 6:26:08 PM

C*A*V*E

Both Hawkeye and Margaret show fears/phobias that were never expressed before and maybe after.

phantomeagle

Posted:
2/3/2018 6:31:06 PM

strange
FinestKindinTN wrote:
Both Hawkeye and Margaret show fears/phobias that were never expressed before and maybe after.

While I've always loved C*A*V*E, it always struck me as odd that Margaret had never said anything about her fear of noises, given the number of times they were under fire.

As far as Hawkeye's phobia, in the linen room he was with a nurse. On top of that there are few places that would bring that out. Windows, and close by doors, and of course the openess of the tents, wouldn't trigger it anywhere else on camp.

BeccaLeo1972

Posted:
2/3/2018 8:40:25 PM

A War for All Seasons does change out the timeline for a good reason but pushes other events to far back. CAVE is a good one though the phobia's are not consistent with any writing before or after.

FinestKindinTN

Email: ryvan@aol.com

Posted:
2/3/2018 9:06:41 PM

phantomeagle wrote:
While I've always loved C*A*V*E, it always struck me as odd that Margaret had never said anything about her fear of noises, given the number of times they were under fire.

As far as Hawkeye's phobia, in the linen room he was with a nurse. On top of that there are few places that would bring that out. Windows, and close by doors, and of course the openess of the tents, wouldn't trigger it anywhere else on camp.

The show's creators seemed to love to bring Hawkeye and Margaret together - getting them together this way seemed really clumsy. Earlier in the show's run when they were brought together, it was nice to see them work together since they were so different. In later seasons, it was not as satisfying because they weren't really enemies any longer.

AB

Posted:
2/5/2018 1:44:28 PM

Characters having phobias, vices, and other traits compressed into an episode and never showing up when it isn't convenient to the plot is an all-too-common trope (as is revealing them out of nowhere, despite previous episodes having evidence to the contrary). I suppose Hawkeye's claustrophobia could be somewhat explained in that he knew he could easily walk out of those other situations, but not so much in the cave. Still a bit of a stretch, of course.

Beth

Posted:
2/8/2018 5:12:26 PM

phantomeagle wrote:
While I've always loved C*A*V*E, it always struck me as odd that Margaret had never said anything about her fear of noises, given the number of times they were under fire.

As far as Hawkeye's phobia, in the linen room he was with a nurse. On top of that there are few places that would bring that out. Windows, and close by doors, and of course the openess of the tents, wouldn't trigger it anywhere else on camp.

Actually, Margaret's fear of loud noises can also be seen at the end of Comrades in Arms part 1, when she wakes up yelling out in frustration and asks Hawkeye to hold her. She probably holds it in at all times, like many people can learn to do with things that upset them, but it takes a lot of stress to bring it to the surface.

phantomeagle

Posted:
2/10/2018 8:43:02 PM

yeah, you're right.
Beth wrote:
Actually, Margaret's fear of loud noises can also be seen at the end of Comrades in Arms part 1, when she wakes up yelling out in frustration and asks Hawkeye to hold her. She probably holds it in at all times, like many people can learn to do with things that upset them, but it takes a lot of stress to bring it to the surface.

Being that that episodes isn't a favorite of mine, she does show it.

It might not be an inconsistency afterall.

Ruptured Brook

Posted:
2/11/2018 12:10:18 PM

Sometimes You Hear the Bullet is awfully dramatic relative to the rest of S1, great as it is :)

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